English: Class 12 (Book 2) β€” Chapter 7: The Interview

Chapter Overview & Author Profile

This chapter explores the multi-faceted nature of the interview as a journalistic genre, a medium of communication, and an art form. It is divided into two distinct parts: the first provides a historical and critical overview of varying opinions on the interview, while the second presents an actual excerpt from an interview with the renowned academic and novelist Umberto Eco .

Literary Profile: Christopher Silvester (Author/Editor)

  • Traits & Temperament: Analytical, historical, and objective observer of journalistic trends.
  • Socio-Economic & Contextual Background: Educated in history at Peterhouse, Cambridge; served as a reporter for Private Eye for ten years and wrote features for Vanity Fair .
  • Thematic & Symbolic Motifs: Interested in the evolution of public discourse, the intersection of celebrity culture and privacy, and the historical trajectory of the interview from 1859 to the present day.
Part I: Perspectives and Polemics on the Interview

Since its invention over 130 years ago, the interview has become a ubiquitous feature of modern journalism. However, opinions on its functions, methods, and merits vary dramatically between practitioners and those who are subjected to it.

The Dual Nature of the Interview
  • The Positive View: In its highest form, the interview is hailed as a source of truth and a highly skilled art. It serves as a supreme medium of communication, offering the public vivid and direct impressions of contemporaries.
  • The Negative View: Often despised by celebrities who view themselves as its victims. It is perceived as an unwarranted intrusion into personal privacy that somehow diminishes the interviewee's persona.
  • Primitive Belief Analogy: Some primitive cultures believe that taking a photographic portrait of a person is akin to stealing their soul; a similar anxiety exists among public figures regarding interviews.
Celebrity Critiques and Historical Reactions

Literary Profile: V. S. Naipaul

  • Perspective: Believes that some people are wounded by interviews and lose a part of themselves.
  • Context: Cosmopolitan travel writer and novelist; received the Nobel Prize in Literature in 2001.

Literary Profile: Lewis Carroll

  • Perspective: Had a 'just horror of the interviewer' and consistently refused to be interviewed.
  • Motivation: Feared being lionized, which led him to repel acquaintances, interviewers, and autograph seekers to preserve his privacy.

Literary Profile: Rudyard Kipling

  • Perspective: Condemned interviewing as immoral, criminal, cowardly, and vile.
  • Hypocrisy Note: Despite his fierce condemnation, Kipling had himself interviewed Mark Twain earlier in his career.

“Why do I refuse to be interviewed? Because it is immoral! It is a crime, just as much of a crime as an offence against my person, as an assault, and just as much merits punishment. It is cowardly and vile. No respectable man would ask it, much less give it.”


Literary Interpretation & Contextual Significance: This excerpt from Caroline Kipling's diary (14 October 1892) captures Rudyard Kipling's extreme hostility toward the press after their day was 'wrecked by two reporters from Boston'. It highlights the intense psychological violation felt by public figures who equated journalistic pursuit with physical assault.

  • H. G. Wells: Referred to interviewing as an 'ordeal' in 1894, yet was a frequent interviewee and eventually interviewed Joseph Stalin in 1934.
  • Saul Bellow: Described interviews as being like 'thumbprints on his windpipe', suggesting a feeling of suffocation and loss of control.
  • Denis Brian's Synthesis: Despite these criticisms, Brian notes that the interviewer holds unprecedented power because almost everything of moment reaches us through one person asking questions of another.
Part II: The Art of the Interstices β€” Interview with Umberto Eco

This section features an excerpt from an interview of Umberto Eco conducted by Mukund Padmanabhan of The Hindu . It reveals Eco's unique philosophy of time, his academic identity, and the secrets behind his literary success.

Literary Profile: Umberto Eco

  • Traits & Temperament: Playful, intellectually formidable, narrative-driven, and deeply philosophical.
  • Socio-Economic & Contextual Background: Professor at the University of Bologna; scholar of semiotics, literary interpretation, and medieval aesthetics.
  • Thematic & Symbolic Motifs: Preoccupied with non-violence, peace, structural empty spaces, and the democratization of difficult intellectual concepts.
The Philosophy of Interstices (Empty Spaces)

Eco explains how he manages to produce an immense volume of work across academic texts, essays, novels, and children's books by utilizing the hidden gaps in daily life.

“Did you know what will happen if you eliminate the empty spaces from the universe, eliminate the empty spaces in all the atoms? The universe will become as big as my fist. Similarly, we have a lot of empty spaces in our lives. I call them interstices... I work in empty spaces.”


Literary Interpretation & Contextual Significance: Eco uses a scientific analogy of atomic structure to explain his time management. By writing during brief moments of waiting (e.g., waiting for an elevator to ascend), he transforms dead time into highly productive creative windows, illustrating his playful yet highly efficient approach to intellectual labor.

Academic Identity vs. Novelistic Fame
  1. The Narrative Method: Eco traces his narrative style back to his doctoral dissertation. Unlike traditional scholars who present dry, depersonalized hypotheses and conclusions, Eco told the 'story of his research', including trials and errors.
  2. Late Entry into Fiction: Because of his commitment to this narrative-scholarly style, Eco did not start writing novels until he was around 50 years old, describing his entry into fiction as an accident that satisfied his taste for narration.
  3. Self-Perception: Eco strongly identifies as an academic scholar first. He states, “I consider myself a university professor who writes novels on Sundays.” He participates in academic conferences rather than Pen Clubs and writers' meetings.
The Phenomenon of 'The Name of the Rose'
  • The Novel's Complexity: The Name of the Rose is a multi-layered bookβ€”a detective yarn at one level that also delves into metaphysics, theology, and medieval history.
  • Mass Audience Paradox: Despite its difficulty, the book sold between 10 and 15 million copies worldwide. Eco attributes this to the fact that readers do not always want easy, trashy experiences; they appreciate intellectual challenges.
  • The Element of Mystery: Eco concludes that the timing of the book's release was crucial. Had it been published ten years earlier or ten years later, its massive success might not have occurred. The exact reason for its success remains a mystery.
Linguistic Analysis: Discourse Linkers and Signallers

The \text highlights how structured conversations rely on specific linguistic devices to maintain flow, transition between topics, and establish coherence.

Linguistic Device / Phrase Exact Textual Example Contextual Meaning & Subtext Stylistic Purpose
Reference Pronoun Linker “Which is?” / “Aah, now that is more difficult to explain.” The pronoun 'that' refers back to the interviewer's question about Eco's unifying philosophy. Maintains conversational continuity and links the speaker's response directly to the prompt.
Topic Shift Signaller “Which brings me to my next question.” Mukund transitions from Eco's academic identity to the specific success of his novel. Prepares the listener/reader for a shift in focus, ensuring a smooth thematic transition.
Narrative Signaller “But let me tell you another story...” Eco shifts from abstract analysis to a concrete anecdote about his American publisher. Engages the listener by framing information as a narrative, softening the academic tone.
Metaphorical Expression “thumbprints on his windpipe” Saul Bellow's description of the suffocating, restrictive nature of being interviewed. Vividly conveys the psychological distress and loss of agency experienced by the interviewee.
Textbook Study & Comprehension Guide
Think as You Read Checkpoints
  1. What are some of the positive views on interviews?
    Interviews are seen as a source of truth, an art form in practice, and a highly serviceable medium of communication that provides vivid impressions of contemporaries.
  2. Why do most celebrity writers despise being interviewed?
    They view it as an unwarranted intrusion into their private lives, a process that diminishes their persona, or an ordeal that wounds them and takes away a part of their self.
  3. What is the belief in some primitive cultures about being photographed?
    They believe that taking a photographic portrait of someone is equivalent to stealing their soul.
  4. What do you understand by the expression “thumbprints on his windpipe”?
    It is a metaphor for the choking, suffocating sensation of having one's privacy invaded and voice controlled by an interviewer.
  5. Who, in today's world, is our chief source of information about personalities?
    The interviewer, who holds unprecedented power and influence by asking questions on behalf of the public.
Understanding the Text
  • Do you think Umberto Eco likes being interviewed?
    Yes, Eco appears highly cooperative, warm, and enthusiastic during the interview. Unlike other celebrities who despise the medium, Eco uses the opportunity to playfully explain his philosophical ideas, share personal anecdotes, and demystify his writing process.
  • How does Eco find the time to write so much?
    He utilizes the “interstices”β€”the empty spaces or transition periods in his daily life, such as writing an article while waiting for an elevator to arrive.
  • What was distinctive about Eco's academic writing style?
    It was highly narrative, personal, and playful. Instead of presenting dry, depersonalized academic findings, he told the story of his research, including his trials, errors, and intellectual journey.